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The Degrassi Digest # 61 March 26,1999
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Soon to come!
Degrassi FAQ!
http://www.degrassi.ca/FAQ/
Submissions are welcome.
Send them to webmaster@degrassi.org
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I N S I D E:
Subject: Did Joey disrespect Caitlin – clarification
Subject: Re: Degrassi Digest #59
Subject: Bonjour!
Subject: Dawson's Creek
Subject: RICK
Subject: SCHOOLS OUT
Subject: ONLINE SHOPPER CONFUSED - LAST DIGEST
Subject: SUPPORT & MISC.
Subject: Is Joey a User?
Subject: spotting of Stephanie Kaye
Subject: ready or not
Subject: Caitlin's "Affair"
Subject: MARKS POINT ON SCHOOLS OUT
Subject: Unfair distribution of character development
Subject: From PBS
Subject: Have you noticed that 1980s pop culture is making a comeback?
Subject: what is "fake" anyway???
Subject: Degrassi quote
Subject: Andrew Sutcliffe
Subject: Andrew Sutcliffe has way too much time on his hands
Subject: Hello from Chile
Subject: Vivian the translator to the rescue
Subject: 3 kids from DeGrassi Street made it big time
Subject: G'day
Subject: HELP ME!!!
Subject: Degrassi World #41—Caitlin in the Big Apple-written by Mark Polger
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From: "johnny"
To: <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: Did Joey disrespect Caitlin - clarification
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:10:14 -0700
<<Degrassi Digest #60>>
I read most of ANDREW SUTCLIFFE's comments about the Joey-Caitlin-Tessa
situation up to the point about how the reviewer would have handled the
situation. Many good points were made and they were well supported.
I also read later on about Mark's commentary on another of Andrew
Sutcliffe's posting where he said, "I disrespect Joey for what he did to
Caitlin. Unfortunately, what he did was nothing new."
So, I'm wondering what do most of us see? Did Joey disrespect Caitlin?
How? I see the disrespect coming from Joey having sex with Caitlin because
he knew how much that aspect of their "relationship" was. Paridoxically,
his "fling" with Tessa could be seen (I see it) as ok, because she is the
one that made the advances and this is when Joey and Caitlin were possibly
not together. Yeah, I couldn't escape the qualifier "possibly."
If Joey could have been up front with Caitlin and said that he did go out
with Tessa before he and Tessa really got physical, then maybe this would
have made Caitlin make a decision. Disrespecting Caitlin for dating Tessa,
no. Disrespecting Caitlin for not telling her that he was physically
involved with Tessa when Caitlin finally wanted to commit, yes.
The grand paridox of having one's gateaux and eating it too.
Johnny Pino
*Mark* I think he used her, because he was upset that she was never around
for him and his needs. He was also anxious for the relationship to
progress, and she felt the pressure..she was not ready…He wanted the
relationship to move faster, so he went elsewhere…Even is she sort of
cheated on him with Claude, what he did was wrong. Cheating with a someone
with a kiss is not as serious as what Joey did (he ahd sex with Tessa and
pretended to like her, HE WENT OUT WITH 2 GIRLS AT THE SAME TIME FOR MOST
OF THE SUMMER
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:35:58 -0800
From: steven X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
To: Degrassi Digest <webmaster@degrassi.org>
Subject: Re: Degrassi Digest #59
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Whats up? I just wanted to say that I think the Degrassi digest is a cool
idea, I
have only received it for a few months, and I look forward to it! From a "US"
point of view, Degrassi tackled issues that nobody in the "States" would
touch at
the time. The stories are still very current and I do not feel that the
show had
dated it's self. It was the best show of it's time and I still enjoy it as
much
now as I did when I was in High School. I only wish it still aired here, If
you
know of any stations that broadcast it here in the US please let me know. The
best part of the show is that it was so "Canadian" and didn't try to cover
it's
identity. I have always appreciated the honesty portrayed on Degrassi, it
was much
more real, and much less censored, than any American Show could be! Keep
up the
good work. Thanks..Steve.
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:42:54 -0600
From: Macarena Martfeld ]
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To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: Bonjour!
Hello!
This is Macarena . I was just surfing and I was wondering where exactly is
it that you can post
pictures of yourself. I couldn't find it anywhere. I also wanted to say
that you are truly amazing for all the work you do on this website. I hope
you find my posts as interesting as your own.
Ciao, Macarena
*Mark* Fans can post pictures of themselves by sending me bio photos and an
information sheet about themselves. Send to webmaster@archives.degrassi.ca
They will go on http://archives.degrassi.ca
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:55:53 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jeffrey D. Shoffner"
To: Degrassi Digest <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: Dawson’s Creek
This is in reply to the comment about Dawson's Creek. I have to agree
100%, what is the deal with the vocabulary on this show? Yeah, it's a
little bit out there that Pacy slept with his teacher. I'll admit though,
that some of these problems do occur with teenagers, but the dialogue
kills me! I don't know of anyone who uses the vobcabulary these
characters do. It is an atrocity to compare Degrassi with Dawson's Creek.
It is unethical, the two cannot be compared in any shape or form.
Degrasssi was a classic, and still lives on. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy
watching Dawson's Creek, I'm from North Carolina and it's filmed here, in
Wilmington. I'll admit though, the main reason I watch is to see familiar
landmarks on television, because the quality of the show isn't all that.
The cast is excellent in Dawson's Creek, but they are playing the wrong
types of characters, they're far too mature in composure and appearance.
Long live Degrassi though!
*Mark* My friend on this list WENDY, told me that on Dawson’s Creek, the
vocabulary of the characters is not indicative of 16 year old…She told me
that it is not a believable show…yet it is entertaining.
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From: "ANDREW SUTCLIFFE"
To: "Degrassi Digest" <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: RICK
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:40:17 +1100
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Does anyone know whether Rick was an extra in Degrassi High and
Schools Out ?
I recall seeing a tall thin fellow who looked a bit like him
in a lot of background shots and I bet it was him. Perhaps
Barry Yau or someone who worked on the show can answer this
question.
I thought it was a damm shame he left the show because he was
an interesting character myself being a bit like him when I was
13 - doing cool things like smoking ( gee they had some great
pure tobacco cigarettes in those days which you can't get now )
and playing around with my bike. He could have joined the Zit
Remedy as drummer because he fit the part perfectly with those
sleeveless t-shirts he use to wear and could have taken his
aggression out on the drums. I'm sure everyone could imagine him
there sitting behind Wheels , Joey and Snake on stage playing the
drums with that serious look on his face. Like Wheels's dad did
in the band. Being a rock'n roller.
Mark - did you ever ask or find out why they dropped him out
of the show ? I'm sure many people would like to know that
question.
*Mark* I do not remember seeing Craig Driscoll in the credits.
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From: "ANDREW SUTCLIFFE"
To: "Degrassi Digest" <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: SCHOOLS OUT
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:19:07 +1100
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There's a couple of other points I missed about Schools Out and
that is:- just after Tessa asked Joey out when Caitlin came
along to make up and she said "......back to normal ? " ( and
Joey hedged a bit ). If I had been Joey I would have taken
that to mean more of the same - ups and downs with Caitlin -
and no wonder he decided to go out with Tessa. That was the
"normal" state of affairs with Caitlin.
If anyone saw the look on Caitlin's face when Joey said it was
"also an engagement ring" - almost horrorified I thought - it
would have turned me right off too. I can understand why Joey
left the party so fast.
Also having just agreed to go out with Tessa ( because he
didn't know where he stood with Caitlin ) does anyone think it
would be right to backout of that date with Tessa especially as
she was looking forward to it ? I don't think it would have
been and that is precisely why he didn't either - he was
honoring his promise and expected it to be a one-off event. So
I think that was correct behaviour given the circumstances
prevailing at the time he made it.
Essentially Caitlin was the problem - she was unavailable - and
still going away to university at the end of summer and how
does anyone expect to keep a relationship going when people are
far apart - that fact would have to have been in Joey's mind.
Therefore I think he was entitled to see Tessa because I don't
subscribe to this view that unmarried people are tied to anyone
unless both give a firm committment - and you didn't see that
from Caitlin. She said she wasn't ready for a committment - and
a committment was what Joey was wanting. Does anyone blame Joey
for putting her to one side ?
I myself wouldn't have put up with Caitlin's uncommitted
inconsistencies ( and besides I wouldn't have picked her anyway
because I thought the only girls at the school worth taking out
were Melanie, Kathleen, Maya, Trish, and maybe Amy, Alison, Abby &
Heather - not to say the others are bad but those would be on
my wavelength ). She would have got dumped a long time ago -
I wouldn't have had her back after the way she dumped him for
Clode because that demonstrated incompatability.
But everyone be aware my criticisms of Caitlin etc... are really
criticisms of what the scriptwriters had them do. Their
characterisations and plots are the focus of my analyses. So I'm
really getting stuck into the writers in these posts of mine -
not our wonderful Degrassi cast members.
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From: "ANDREW SUTCLIFFE"
To: "Degrassi Digest" <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: ONLINE SHOPPER CONFUSED - LAST DIGEST
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:47:24 +1100
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That CONFUSED online grocery shopper in last digest #60 - do you
think they were looking for the world famous Degrassi Grocery
store used in the show ?
*Mark* I wonder if Degrassi Grocery has a website…It is not a very large
grocery, it is really small and cute inside…
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From: "ANDREW SUTCLIFFE"
To: "Degrassi Digest" <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: SUPPORT & MISC.
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:57:31 +1100
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I want to thank and say I'm indebted to C.MacGREGOR for his
support of my posts in Digest #59. I'd have a beer with you
anyday - Molsons, Budweizer or Fosters - take you pick buddy -
perhaps we also ought to invite Michelle's father round too.
I know there are a lot of guys out there who silently are
agreeing with what I been saying, and am pleased to tell you
several ladies on the digest list have agreed with my posts too
in private communications - but they said they don't dare say so
publically because its not politically correct. All I'm really
doing is some objective analyses of the show from a guys
viewpoint - things which I haven't seen said and I think do
need saying because like it or not there were some radical
feminists writing some of the Degrassi scripts.
Many of you will not have seen the show in recent times and if
so its only when you really go over and replay specific
episodes several times do you pick things out - every time I
play them I find something new. Like the bikini girl one - I
was watching it again and few weeks ago ( partly because I like
to see Alison and Amy with as little on as possible as do
most guys - and because both of them are nice too ) and I sat
there sipping a bottle of RC Cola and all of a sudden I said
to myself why the hell is Joey shooting it amongst the garbage
and in the dumpster ? He wouldn't do that in his right mind. It
hit me. Then I realized our feminists friends were trying to
send a subtle message. And that episode was written by - guess
who Susin Nielson - feminist. And to be fair to Lucy ( Anaias )
if you look carefully she was finding it hard to keep a
straight face at certain points when telling Joey she wasn't
filming a sexist video. Joey couldn't keep a straight face either.
I've probably played each Degrassi episode 20 times in the last
7 years - largely because the free-to-air tv here in Australia
has become so bad there is little decent to watch. I also play
Press Gang and Northwood as well. They are more fun to watch
than other shows.
If anyone wishes to add things to THINGS RICK COULD HAVE DONE
IN THE SHOW I would ask people to do their lists and send them
in because I only covered some of the possibilities. I'd love to
see them.
I did SNAKE GETS A DATE Degrassi Fan fiction digest #58 purely
for fun because I thought it was high time poor Alison nailed
Snake. She tried so hard. I really did feel sorry for her in
the show. You never saw her with anyone other than Nick which
was sad. She was so beautiful & desirable - the sex princess of
the show I once said - I would have thought they'd have set
her up with someone - Amy too. But I also thought it would end
up a disaster because the two ( her and Snake ) weren't really
a match. I have sent off a copy of it to her at Epitome
Pictures and will post you her comments if she bothers to reply.
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From: "Kailee Hleuka"
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: Is Joey a User?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:51:36 PST
In my opinion Joey didn't use Tessa, and even if he did, I'm sure he
didn't intend to hurt anyone. I admit, He was probably feeling regected
and lonely and when Tessa came along, offering a date- anyone in that
position would have went for it. Maybe he had no feelings what so ever
for Tessa, but it wasn't wrong for accepting an offer. It's more Tessa's
fault than anyone. She knew that Joey had jost gotten regectd from
Caitlin and nobody is ready to jump into a new relationship so fast
after a long term thing. Then she offered him sex, come on Joey was not
going to turn that down! Maybe he should have used better judgement, but
Tessa knew what she was getting herself into.
*Mark* I think he is a user…
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From: "Green Eyes"
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: spotting of Stephanie Kaye
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:59:14 PST
I think I spotted good ol' "Stephanie Kaye" on TV here in Canada. There
is a commercial for eToys where a bunch of moms and their kids are
decked out in army camoflage while shopping for toys. She is the one
who gets squirted in the face with the water gun. Look closely...maybe
you will agree.
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:18:53 -0600 (CST)
From: sheryl
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: ready or not
i've been watching ready or not quite a bit lately and i have to say that
i don't think it's very comparable to degrassi. sure they're both canadian
and they both have the same goal of portraying the teen years
realistically but i just don't seen how people can compare it to degrassi.
don't get mad at me everyone but i have to say that i think ready or not
is more realistic than degrassi. i don't remember many of those completely
silly junior high crushes happening in degrassi like they do in ready or
not. the people of degrassi are all basically friends except of course in
junior high where the older class doesn't like the younger class and vice
versa. in ready or not busy and amanda had to deal with the 'cool' people
of the school. they searched to try to find their own identity while
dealing with growing up. their lives just seem more realistic to me than
the ones at degrassi.
i could go on forever about how i think ready or not compares to degrassi
but i think i'll just leave it at that.
Sheryl
*Mark* Ready or Not is mainly about the two girls, their lives growing
up..etc…like a little piece of Degrassi. (Takes place in Toronto, right?)
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From: Greg
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: Caitlin's "Affair"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:33:34 PST
I disagree with Mark’s reply to Andrew Sutcliffe about the whole
Caitlin-Joey thing. You said that she told Joey as soon as she knew she
cared about Claude. But that's not true. Remember? Maya was disappointed
with her because Caitlin was stringing Joey along "in case things don't
work out with Claude". I believe those were her exact words.
I look at it this way: they're both cheaters, so they deserve each
other! --Greg
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From: "ANDREW SUTCLIFFE"
To: "Degrassi Digest" <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: Mark’s POINT ON SCHOOLS OUT
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:48:51 +1100
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Mark made a very good point about Schools Out and Joeys
behaviour contrasted with Caitlin last digest..
He said Caitlin broke off with Joey when she knew Clode was the
one for her whereas Joey kept seeing both of them. That is
true but that was only after pressure from Maya. She was still
seeing Clode before she broke off with Joey but thats no
different to Joey seeing Tessa - he simply took a lot longer (
see reasons cited below ) and still hadn't decided which one he
wanted when Tessa dumped him.. Caitlin eventually did the right
thing and broke it off with Joey.
The difference is that Joey took up with Tessa because Caitlin
wouldn't give him a committment - she rejected the engagement the
ring - and he didn't know where he stood with her. Caitlin in
contrast did know where she stood be Joey - knew he liked her
100% yet still saw and left him for Clode. So there's a big
difference there. Its not as if Joey was wavering. Joey didn't
do anything to deserve being dumped but Caitlin did I think.
And thats my main point - indecisive little Caitlin got what she
deserved because she was leading Joey on - wouldn't give a
committment - was going away to university etc... - so Joey was
justified seeing Tessa.
His mistake was he didn't cut clean but the reason he didn't
was because he didn't realize Tessa wanted a permanent
relationship and because he didn't know where he stood with
Caitlin until the very last night - remember until that night
she was still going to leave him and go away to university -
so he was playing two hands at once which I think was the
smart play. I suspect until that last night he figured Caitlin
would be lost when she went and Tessa would take her place.
Caitlin had Joey effectively at arms length all summer - no
committment - unavailable - almost a part time girlfriend - and
it is therefore understandable why he did what he did.
The real problem that Joey faced is that he really didn't know
where he stood with either of them until the very end. He knew
that Tessa knew things might not be over with Caitlin. He also
knew Caitlin knew they would be split up when she left for
university and that Caitlin didn't want a committment.
So it really boils down to Caitlin dumping Joey was a cut and
dried situation, whereas Joey Caitlin and Tessa was an unclear
situation for him. Thats why he couldn't cut clean with one of
them. And thats why weighing all these things up I think Joey
wasn't as guilty of misconduct as is made out. He couldn't
decide which one until the end but it was too late.
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From: "Donnie Jackson"
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: Unfair distribution of character development
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:00:23 PST
I think that Degrassi placed too much time on the popular characters
like Joey, Spike, Lucy, Wheels, and Caitlin. But not enough attention
on the less noticable characters like Kathleen, BLT, Alexa, Melanie,
Simon, and Yick. Nancy, Scooter, Alex, and Trish especially deserved air
time because they were the original "Kids of Degrassi Street". What ever
happened to seniority?
*Mark* I think it was because PWT thought that they were strong
actors….This is why they did not make many extras become the main
characters…Some did, like Michelle, Alexa, Simon, BLT, Tessa, etc…
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To: post@degrassi.org
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:10:21 -0800
From: "Piper Summers"
Cc:
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Hi fellow Degrassi followers, I'm a longtime reader, my first post..
I recently wrote to PBS online and they responded to me about a week later.
This is what they said *sorry, it's kinda long*:
>Thank you for writing to PBS. We appreciate receiving your e-mail, and
apologize for the delay in this response.
>PBS distributed both DEGRASSI JUNIOR HIGH (1987-1988) and DEGRASSI
HIGH(1989-1992). The dramatic series >followed a cast of characters
through junior high and high school, focusing on topics of significance to
young people. The series were produced by Playing >With Time and WGBH with
Taylor Productions, Inc.
>The following video collection is available from Facets Video by calling
800/331-6197:
>Degrassi Jr. High/High--Health Education Curriculum
>This frank but funny 70-part dramatic series reveals the joys,crises and
perplexities of the adolescent years and is targeted at middle through high
school students, their teachers, and their parents.
>Set in a city neighborhood with families from mixed ethnic and economic
backgrounds,this award-winning drama series is designed to reflect
teenagers' own >lives through stories portraying the emotionally >charged
problems and tough decisions that conffront the Degrassi kids. Six-tape
series includes
Relationships, Date Abuse, Teen Pregnancy, HIV/AIDS, Alcoholism, and Sexual
Orientation. Also includesbackground information, lesson handouts and
>reading and resource lists.
More videos are supposed to be available from Direct >Cinema at:
>Direct Cinema Ltd.
>PO Box 10003
Santa Monica, CA
>90410
Tel: 800/525-0000
>Because each station schedules its programming >independently, please
contact your local PBS member >station at: <www.pbs.org/stations/> for
>information on possible rebroadcasts.
I wrote my local PBS station & it was a dead end, they said no basically,
they wouldn't be showing it anymore..:(
Anyway, sorry again for the long post :) Good wishes to all of you,
Piper
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From: "NATALIE J EARL"
To: <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: Have you noticed that 1980s pop culture is making a comeback?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:37:36 -0000
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It seems like all the current music videos, fashions, movies, and pop
culture icons are heavily influenced by the 1980s. All these bands are
doing covers of 1980s songs (i.e. Walkin' On Sunshine, Come on Eileen,
Cruel Summer, etc.) Even Target is selling jelly bean sandals, crimping
irons and jelly bracelets. Then you got your 80's throwback movies like 200
Cigarettes, The Wedding Singer, Romy and Michelle. It's kinda cool, but
kinda sad that my generation is sooooo dated now. Anyway, something good
came out of all this 1980s nostalgia. I am able to find lots of tacky 1980s
fashions that I wore so shamelessly in 5th through 9th grade. Just today I
found two pairs of spider web nylons at Wet Seal that look exactly like the
ones Spike wore on "Crossed Wires" (on the clearance rack for $1). Then I
found some animal print scarves just like the ones Lucy wore. Now I am on
the look-out for the black clip-on suspenders that Liz and Claude wore.
However, I have to draw the line at acid washed jeans, bubble skirts, leg
warmers, and feather hair.
*Mark* Those were the days…I remember being in elementary school and
beginning of high school and seeing it all around me.
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From: AMFM88
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:25:47 EST
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: what is "fake" anyway???
X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 43
trying to get a show to not appear "fake" means what???
is it unprofessional? because i remember a while ago someone talking about
the little mistakes in degrassi, etc, and i dont think that problems that come
with lack of funding should make a show more "real". when i decide to like a
show or not, i look at the characters and how they relate, if there is any
emotional depth to the dialogue etc.
i dont go around saying how pretty and nice looking they are, or if it is all
nicely lit because it was filmed in some studio somewhere.
i dont know about all this talk about how degrassi was sooo real. i think it
did a good job of portraying 80s teens' lives, but if it were to be really
"real", it would have been much more boring.
and to dispute the things that make dawson SOOOO unlike degrassi:
the teacher thing is so over. and i agree that was probably a stupid idea
(sorry to all those who think that this thing happens ALL the time), but
degrassi had some plot downfalls too. and about having crushes on your
teachers, hell that happens all the time, just look at lucy and the twins for
that english teacher!!
i think your comment about how the guy that joey like is gay... well SO WHAT?
i think that was just a bad point on your part. and yeah they talk maturely,
and yes, they are probably not in grade ten (which i accept) but there are
some anomalies in degrassi too. like how no on really had money, ok lucy was
middle class, but everyone else seemed to have problems. i think that there
is a flaw.
ready or not was anti canadian. that is my opinion. and yeah they may have
used a few real locations, but you can see that much in any made for tv movie
filmed in toronto. and come on, who in toronto, let alone ontario, let alone
canada says sixth grade??? that there turned me off!
i think true realism is the emotions between the characters, is it believable?
i think i see the same thing between caitlin and lucy as between that joey
chick and jen.
and its not that i loooooove dawsons creek, but i really hated ready or not,
and that is why i contrasted them. degrassi is always in my heart....
does anyone know if the girl who played kathleen went to western???
(university of western ontario?) its just i saw her with a western sweatshirt
in a mall a while ago...
annie
*Mark* Rebecca Haines told me she went to McGill University in Montreal for
her B.A. in Sociology, then to York University in Toronto for her Masters.
University of Western Ontario is in London, Ontario (2 hours from Toronto)
I may be going there for my Masters Degree in September 1999 *
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:32:10 -0500
From: Gord Nash
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U)
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: Degrassi quote
In the episode "It Creeps" Shane also calls Spike "A, a, big dumb jerk"
Submitted by Gordon Nash Jr!
*Mark* Thanks for the quote!
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:34:56 -0500
From: Andrea & Cindy
Organization: IOF>>International Organization of Fun
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I)
To: webmaster@degrassi.org
Subject: Andrew Sutcliffe
I am a university student who has been recently concerned with the lack
of critical thinking happening in my university. It seems as though
people are only concerned about marks, and not questioning the things
they are learning. Whether or not it is Andrew's point to think
critically or not, I think that he promotes this critical thinking I am
talking about. I may indeed just be reading too much into things. But,
the points he brings up allows one to actually think about the events
and their consequences on the show. Most of the time we accept things
at their face value and never bother to think twice about what we saw.
Andrew brings points and arguments to mind that I may not have thought
of before. I don't think Degrassi was just a grand old show to watch, I
think it was also to educate kids about issues that many of us ( living
in our tiny little boxes) would never have had to deal with. So
anyways, my point is, although I don't have the time to always read Mr.
Sutcliffes gigantor posts, I do respect him for putting a little thought
into things.
I think that the best quote ever on Degrassi is this "You are all a
bunch of sheep!" Said by Claude. Meaning (as far as I can see) that
everyone is a conformist, like sheep, thinking and acting the same way,
not willing to accept something a little different than the "norm". I
think that if we question things, as Andrew has done, and accept them or
do not accept them as they are, we will become more informed, educated
and interesting people. We too often accept what we originally see as
the truth, and leave it at that.
Andrea
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From: "Wendy Furtenbacher"
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: Andrew Sutcliffe has way too much time on his hands
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:08:10 PST
I think Andrew Suttcliffe has waaaaaaaaaayy too much time on his hands,
and I think just likes to see who he can offend every week. I've not
been offended by his opinions, as I don't care to read such long posts.
Point being, if you don't like his opinions, don't be an audience for
them.
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From: "piie"
To: <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: Stefan Brogren
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:39:40 -0400
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
Hello degrassi
my name is G. E. J. I write from Chile south america
and my inglish is BAD....
if exist somebody that speak spanish ,please read this....
HELP!!!
yo soy estudiante universitaria tengo 21 años,estudio ingenieria en
informatica( computacion)
Desde que estoy pequeña he visto su serie y es muy buena ,pues me he
identificado con mas de un
episodio, ya que la vida adolescente no es facil, se podri decir que creci
al mismo tiempo que ustedes.
he de confesar que soy una FANS DE STEFAN BROGREN !!( Ilike his eyes)
y me gustaria escribirle , ya sea por mail o por correo normal ,lo unico
que quiero es alguna
respuesta de ël, y si no quieren o si no pueden les pido por
favor(PLEASE!!)
que no boten este papel y se lo entreguen . loagradecería mucho.
STEFAN BROGREN
your eyes are my heaven,your heands are my hearth , de verdad me gusta tu
papel en degressi.
a lo mejor es tonto par ti esto, pero soy una fans tuya y creo que eso
merece respeto
mido 1.70 centimetros ,mi cabello es rojizo , y mi pile es blanca like
yours
if you can write me te lo agradeceria mucho, verry mush
bueno creo que eso es todo
tank you so much
PLEASE ANSWER ME !! respond !!
G. E. J.
*Mark* Vivian, help me translate
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:35:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Vivian Bejerman
To: Degrassi Digest <mark@degrassi.org>
Subject: Vivian the translator to the rescue
Hi
this is a 21 yr old girl who loves stefan bogren. she described herself
physically, as well as saying that she studies computer engineering in
Chile. She would like you to somehow forward this e-mail to him, and to
for sure not throw it out.
(no comment)
Vivian the translator
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From: "Donnie Jackson"
To: post@degrassi.org
Subject: Three kids from DeGrassi Street made it to the big time
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:00:30 PST
Very few people know this but Rachel Blanchard of Carrie 2: The Rage and
UPN's Clueless played Melanie on The Kids of Degrassi Street. Christian
Campbell, who played Todd on Degrassi High starred in Aaron Spelling's
Malibu Shores and in the indie film Hairshirt. Anais Granofsky who
played Lucy on Degrass High is a featured character on Le Femme Nikita.
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:27:50 +1000
From: Yvette Poshoglian
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
To: Degrassi Digest <post@degrassi.org>
Subject: G'day
Dear Folks,
I was just re-reading Melanie by Susin Nielsen the other day. The ingenuous
Melanie seems to be an oft-overlooked character in the digest! Just thought
I'd relay something sweet and perfectly Melanie, from the book. Melanie
writes in her journal:
I read all the teen novels and magazines, and they all say junior high is
when life really begins. Parties, boys, dating, kissing, getting a hickey.
It's all out there waiting for me, Melanie Brody, hot-blooded and
passionate teen (well, almost teen). So watch out Degrassi Junior High,
cause here I come.
And didn't she just! A lot of us girls related to Melanie!!!
Cheers, Yvette
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From: Michael Seyler
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:58:39 -0500 (EST)
To: mark@degrassi.org
Subject: HELP ME!!!
i have personally never seen the show degrassi jr. high, but one of my
favorite bands, skankin pickle did a song called "i'm in love with a
girl named spike" i have no idea what she looks like, and i would like
to see a picture of her, but i'm haing a hard time finding one. could
you please tell me where to find one or if one of the pics on your site
is of her, could you tell me which one it is. thank you for your time.
cAio.
EVERYBODY knows that a burrow owl lives in a hole in the ground! why the
hell do you think they call it a "burrow owl" anyway?!?!?!
*Mark* check out http://www.degrassi-junior-high.org/Shrine/
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Degrassi World #41—Caitlin in the Big Apple!
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Caitlin wakes up in the morning, she feels shy and lonely in the big city
of New York. She starts her first job at CBC as American Correspondent.
Her job is to report on behalf of the Canadian audience on American issues.
She just left last week in a hurry to try to find an apartment in New York.
She was not used to the sky high rents, compared to her home in east end
Toronto, the little district called The Beaches. She remembers paying as
little of $450.00 for a one bedroom in this hip area of the city, but now
her rent has sky-rocketted to $2000.00 dollars American for a small one
bedroom overlooking central park and museum mile on 5th Avenue. She
remember her days at Carleton with Lucy, she was studying Journalism, and
Lucty was studying film. She can remember coming home to Toronto on some
weekends, but now it was different. Caitlin could not afford going home
all the time. Her apartment was expensive, and luckily, she was sharing it
with a flight attendent named Sandy, who also had a similar job travelling
back and forth, working for CBC, but at the same time, living in New York.
She was lucky to have found a journalism job on television, because
television is the media job that pays the highest for journalists. She
dreaded working on a newspaper for the rest of her life, as she would have
bad memories of her experience working for Nancy at the Degrassi Digest in
high school. Her worst memory was when Nancy followed her to Carleton
University, to pursue her studies on medicine, and she also became school
president and newspaper editor. She also became Prime Minister of Canada,
and although Caitlin admired her for being educated and scholarly, she
always was jealous of her. She had everything, and Caitlin felt alone,
without anyone here. Her friends were all in Toronto and none of them had
ever thought of making a life in the United States.
Caitlin climbed into the shower and thought about her day ahead. What will
she wear? Will she have her office? Will she get an e-mail address so she
can contact all her friends. She only comes to Montreal once per month for
one week, so that makes the other roomate able to crash at her apartment
for the week. Sandy was a flight attendent who was based in New York, but
she also lived in Japan, and Australia. Caitlin did not know her very
well, but she saw an ad in the New York Times and she had to take the
apartment. She worked at the CBC office at West 57th and 5th Avenue in
Manhatten. It was only a short walk from her house, and she enjoyed
walking each morning through Central Park. She often times walked and
bought hot nuts at the vendor and gave them to the squirrels while she
walked. She made a couple of squirrel friends, but as the next week
approached, she thought she was quote pathetic making squirrels as friends.
Every day at work was the same kind of routine. She met her boss Hugh,
asked him what to report on, and she always was on the phone with the
Toronto office, asking them what to report on. Her hours were steady, and
luckily she worked from 6am-9pm, three days per week, instead of working
from 12pm-2am, three days a week. She would be scared to death walking
through Central Park at night. She was happy that she had Thurs and
Fridays off, so she can relax and see the city that she was living in.
She woke up today thinking it was time to visit the Empire State Building.
The building was 75 floors, and wit was $20.00 American to enter to the
tower. She did not care, she had to think of herself as a tourist, so she
can get used to living in this strange city that never sleeps. She went to
34th street and 5th avenue and walked inside the building. The long
hallway depicted old photos of the building, like a walk through history.
She then went to a row of elevators and paid the fee, and went up to the
50th floor, she changed elevators again and went to the observation desk.
She enjoyed the observation deck, looking at her city, the city where she
felt like a visitor, yet she was hopeful that she would be more
comfortable. She took a deep breath, and left the observation deck. Her
cell phone rang at that moment, going down the elevator, and everyone
looked her way. She answered the phone. It was her boss in Toronto,
asking her to go to the station as soon as possible, as there was an
emergency. She had to cover the 5 year anniversary of the millenium
disaster when Times Square blew up on Jan 1st, 2000. She did not know why
it was such an emergency, but she knew that in her early days being a
Journalist, she knew that she had to cover unimportant stories. It was
2005, and she did not think it was important for CBC to cover a 5 year
anniversary of Times Square to be blown up. It was re-built and no one
ever brought it up again. She did not think it was such a big deal. She
went to work on the story. She thought it would be fun to go to the main
building of the New York public library archives to do research. She went
to 5th Avenue and 42nd street to do research in the archives. She went to
the front desk and asked where the archives was. The receptionist told her
to go to the basement, and please give her purse, and briefcase. Caitlin
went to the archives and found the information she needed for her story.
After her research and spending $10.00 in photocopies, she filled out a
form to get reimbursed and then went on the tour to the New York Public
Library. She toured the beautiful building, knowing that there were 88
other New York Public Library locations to visit. She felt even more
scared, knowing that this city is so big. "I’ve got plans", declared
Caitlin to herself. She knew that on her days off she would explore the
five boroughs, go to the Statue of Liberty, go through the sixty odd blocks
of Central Park, visit all the museums, and eventually get to see all those
libraries. "I may as well make the best of this city. Maybe I will meet a
friend on my journey."
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The Joey/Caitlin breakup continues—DD#61
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